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Old 09-21-2007, 11:51 AM
maudlinmary
 
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makeminemaudlin@mail.com (maudlinmary) wrote in message news:<b5b6797d.0401012208.6a187f21@posting.google. com>...
> My friend wants to eat mushrooms with me but he has been diagnosed
> with schizophrenia and fibromyalgia. He is on Zyprexa (7.5 mg/day) and
> Effexor (225 mg/day). I told him it was probably a bad idea just given
> the fact that he is on an antipsychotic drug which I assume would
> block the psychadelic effects of mushrooms, let alone that he was
> diagnosed with schizophrenia. He has eaten shrooms before, previous to
> both diagnoses and thoroughly enjoyed the experience. He says it's
> worth the risk. Will the Zyprexa inhibit the psychadelic effects of
> mushrooms? What are the chances of either of his conditions worstening
> as a result of taking them? If anyone out there can shoot me any
> advice, or even just a link to some research out there, that can give
> us a better understanding of the situation, I would greatly appreciate
> it.
>
> maudlinmary



This is me, the one on Zyprexa who really wants to trip again. I've
been reading the postings and I'd like to give some more specifics.
For one, my doctor has said that I have a very mild case of
schizophrenia. Also, I did not have any of the common symptoms
associated with schizophrenia. No halucinations, no voices, no
paranoia. Mainly, what I had was delusions. These delusions focused
almost entirely around things being wrong with my body. My condition
could have been described as a very extreme case of hypocondria.
Furthurmore, I have not had any symptoms of schizophrenia for the last
three years. My guess is that those of you who have said that
mushrooms would be harmful to me, had the idea that i have
hallucinations already, and shrooms would make them worse. This is
not the case, I have never had any hallucinations.

My questions are thus:

1. What negative effects would mushrooms likely have on me considering
my condition as described above? Please understand that I would take
a small dose. (less than a gram) Is the danger that I would have
problems during the trip or after? (ie. would shrooms cause temporary
or long term damage?) What degree of damage is the worst that could
result from one trip?

2. Someone wrote that people who are adjusted to the medication react
differently. Does the fact that I've been on Zyprexa for three years
change what the effect will be of eating mushrooms?
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:53 AM
Mook23
 
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Default Re: mushrooms and schizophrenia

> My questions are thus:
>
> 1. What negative effects would mushrooms likely have on me considering
> my condition as described above? Please understand that I would take
> a small dose. (less than a gram) Is the danger that I would have
> problems during the trip or after? (ie. would shrooms cause temporary
> or long term damage?) What degree of damage is the worst that could
> result from one trip?
>
> 2. Someone wrote that people who are adjusted to the medication react
> differently. Does the fact that I've been on Zyprexa for three years
> change what the effect will be of eating mushrooms?


If I were you, I wouldn't try. Basically, a bad trip can have permanent
psychological effects. If you were to have one, it could be even worse.
The medication may or may not have some effect on the trip.


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