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Old 09-21-2007, 11:13 AM
Eddie Curtis
 
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Default PES Amazonian or B+

one vs. the other, what are the pros and cons of growing these strains?
Would also appreciate peoples opinions on the strains, which would you
choose to grow and why?

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Old 09-21-2007, 11:13 AM
Eddie Curtis
 
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Eddie Curtis wrote:
> one vs. the other, what are the pros and cons of growing these strains?
> Would also appreciate peoples opinions on the strains, which would you
> choose to grow and why?
>


Also, when ordering a syringe or print, does anybody have an opinion of
mycogrow.com? reputable or crock?

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Old 09-21-2007, 11:14 AM
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I do know that B+ strain produces some very BIG shrooms. A FOAF is
doing some PES Hawaiians right now... supposedly a good beginner's
strain. For lot's of strain and other info check out the archives at
<a href="www.mycotopia.com">Mycotopia.com</a> in the message board.
This is the website I've been studying, and the best I've seen in it's
class.

--AOC--


Eddie Curtis <bongedward@telus.net> wrote in message news:<vClbb.214$0a6.117@edtnps84>...
> one vs. the other, what are the pros and cons of growing these strains?
> Would also appreciate peoples opinions on the strains, which would you
> choose to grow and why?

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Old 09-21-2007, 11:14 AM
mongoose000
 
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Default Re: PES Amazonian or B+

For the record, the URL is http://www.mycotopia.net/discus/index2.html .
IMHO, B+ grows gargantuan but the potency level is quite mild.
Depending on what you want, I'd try something else. Currently, I'm
growing Hawaiians but not yet tried them for the ultimate test.

mongoose000




In article <cd33aa93.0309241100.267eb396@posting.google.com >,
AngryOrangeCat <sking711@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I do know that B+ strain produces some very BIG shrooms. A FOAF is
> doing some PES Hawaiians right now... supposedly a good beginner's
> strain. For lot's of strain and other info check out the archives at
> <a href="www.mycotopia.com">Mycotopia.com</a> in the message board.
> This is the website I've been studying, and the best I've seen in it's
> class.
>
> --AOC--
>
>
> Eddie Curtis <bongedward@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:<vClbb.214$0a6.117@edtnps84>...
> > one vs. the other, what are the pros and cons of growing these strains?
> > Would also appreciate peoples opinions on the strains, which would you
> > choose to grow and why?

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Old 09-21-2007, 11:14 AM
Eddie Curtis
 
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Default Re: PES Amazonian or B+



mongoose000 wrote:
> For the record, the URL is http://www.mycotopia.net/discus/index2.html .
> IMHO, B+ grows gargantuan but the potency level is quite mild.
> Depending on what you want, I'd try something else. Currently, I'm
> growing Hawaiians but not yet tried them for the ultimate test.
>
> mongoose000
>
>


I would defiantly want high potency, high yield, high tolerance to
idiocy (i'm good at that). So far, which would you say most closely (?)
matches those criteria? (it takes me between 7 and 12 grams of dried
generic street zoomers to reach just past lvl 2, not quite to lvl 3. So
potency is a big issue I guess. but if I can get a huge yield medium
potency, that's fine cause I like eating. heh.

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Old 09-21-2007, 11:15 AM
mongoose000
 
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Default Re: PES Amazonian or B+

In article <gcMcb.587$uG.148@edtnps84>, Eddie Curtis
<bongedward@telus.net> wrote:

> mongoose000 wrote:
> > For the record, the URL is http://www.mycotopia.net/discus/index2.html .
> > IMHO, B+ grows gargantuan but the potency level is quite mild.
> > Depending on what you want, I'd try something else. Currently, I'm
> > growing Hawaiians but not yet tried them for the ultimate test.
> >
> > mongoose000
> >
> >

>
> I would defiantly want high potency, high yield, high tolerance to
> idiocy (i'm good at that). So far, which would you say most closely (?)
> matches those criteria? (it takes me between 7 and 12 grams of dried
> generic street zoomers to reach just past lvl 2, not quite to lvl 3. So
> potency is a big issue I guess. but if I can get a huge yield medium
> potency, that's fine cause I like eating. heh.



Between these two strains, the Hawaiians are definitely your best bet
and are relatively easy-growers. I believe that between most strains,
the variance in potency is fairly minimal (thus simply up or down the
dosage incrementally). B+ was definitely an exception in being
noticeably milder. Can't fully vouch for the Hawaiians until I try them
- but I'm sure others know. Regarding yields, that's where following
the teks to the letter will make all the difference with little touches
like - lightly peeling or fluffing up the cakes with a fork and dunking
them after flushes, maintaining humidity, working with casings, etc.

As for your street zoomers, it's impossible to know exactly what you
were being sold. So the dosages may be way out of wack. 7-12 g. of
potent cubensis would be a trip to the sanitorium for most people. 5g.
+ is often called the heroic dosage for level 5 type experiences. I
wouldn't bet that you have a super-high tolerance until you try your
own-grown.

mongoose000
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:15 AM
Eddie Curtis
 
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Default Re: PES Amazonian or B+


>
>
> Between these two strains, the Hawaiians are definitely your best bet
> and are relatively easy-growers. I believe that between most strains,
> the variance in potency is fairly minimal (thus simply up or down the
> dosage incrementally). B+ was definitely an exception in being
> noticeably milder. Can't fully vouch for the Hawaiians until I try them
> - but I'm sure others know. Regarding yields, that's where following
> the teks to the letter will make all the difference with little touches
> like - lightly peeling or fluffing up the cakes with a fork and dunking
> them after flushes, maintaining humidity, working with casings, etc.
>
> As for your street zoomers, it's impossible to know exactly what you
> were being sold. So the dosages may be way out of wack. 7-12 g. of
> potent cubensis would be a trip to the sanitorium for most people. 5g.
> + is often called the heroic dosage for level 5 type experiences. I
> wouldn't bet that you have a super-high tolerance until you try your
> own-grown.
>
> mongoose000



My zoomin buddy and my fiance both get totatty "screwed yeah!" off of
1-2.5g of the same zoomers that I took. So yeah 7-12 would be a trip
somewhere for them, but like I said, it does very little for me. Same
goes for salvia divinorum (still no result from that stuff) and hawaiian
baby woodrose (screwed my friend up with 5 seeds, took me 18 to get a
light body stone).
I don't know what it is, but my body and alkaloids do not mix. I don't
do any man made drugs, only dirt grown wonders, but damn is it ever
tough to reach any level, let alone the heroic level you speak of (that
is my ultimate goal) but at this rate it'll take me a full oz of zoomers
to get even remotely close.

Oh, and because street zoomers are so hard to find, I have gone through
many dealers, all with relatively the same result (7g or less brings on
level 1 and nothing more). I may be cursed, but i'm not giving up. When
I reach level 5, i'll have bloody well earned it, mind, body, and wallet!

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