something of interest

[liteage1]

Some fascinating studies have been done in Germany where the metabolically active mycelium of some Psilocybe species have been administered diethyltryptamine as a potential diet component. Normally, this mushroom species dutifully converts N,N-dimethyltryptamine (DMT) to psilocin, by introducing a 4-hydroxyl group into the molecule by something that is probably called an indole 4-hydroxylase by the biochemists. You put DMT in, and you get 4-hydroxy-DMT out, and this is psilocin. Maybe if you put Mickey Mouse in, you would get 4-hydroxy-Mickey Mouse out. It is as if the mushroom psyche didn't really care what it was working with, it was simply compelled to do its sacred duty to 4-hydroxylate any tryptamine it came across. It was observed that if you put N,N-diethyltryptamine (DET, not a material found in nature) into the growing process, the dutiful and ignorant enzymes would hydroxylate it to 4-hydroxy-N,N-diethyltryptamine (4-HO-DET) a potent drug also not known in nature. This is the title drug of this commentary. What a beautiful burr to thrust into the natural versus synthetic controversy. If a plant (a mushroom mycelium in this case) is given a man-made chemical, and this plant converts it, using its natural capabilities, into a product that had never before been known in nature, is that product natural? What is natural? This is the stuff of many long and pointless essays.


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[no@spamtoday]

"liteage1" <liteage_1@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Some fascinating studies have been done in Germany
[snip]
>This is the stuff of many long and pointless essays.

I know. This text is from TIHKAL and online available from erowid (among
others). And of course it is of interest since it is about mushrooms and
psychedelic tryptamines. But why post it at ADM? I have dozens of books and
hundreds of articles on these subjects. But there is no reason to post
paragraphes unless it is to illustrate a finding/observation/etc of your
own.

So why did you post it?

Yachaj

[liteage1]

i posted that, for those that are just learning about certain other
chemicals
that are leagl and illegle too. the legal ones. wich are called RC's
(research chemicals).
4-ho-dmt is very much like the psychedelic mushrooms.
i should of been more specific about my intent.Yachaj
please to meet you too,Yachaj
cheers
lite






no@spamtoday wrote:
> "liteage1" <liteage_1@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Some fascinating studies have been done in Germany
> [snip]
> >This is the stuff of many long and pointless essays.
>
> I know. This text is from TIHKAL and online available from erowid
> (among others). And of course it is of interest since it is about
> mushrooms and psychedelic tryptamines. But why post it at ADM? I have
> dozens of books and hundreds of articles on these subjects. But there
> is no reason to post paragraphes unless it is to illustrate a
> finding/observation/etc of your own.
>
> So why did you post it?
>
> Yachaj

[michael]

On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 01:19:48 GMT, "liteage1" <liteage_1@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>i posted that, for those that are just learning about certain other
>chemicals
>that are leagl and illegle too. the legal ones. wich are called RC's
>(research chemicals).
>4-ho-dmt is very much like the psychedelic mushrooms.
>i should of been more specific about my intent.Yachaj
>please to meet you too,Yachaj
>cheers
>lite
>

4 ho dmt is psilocin.