Re: what i like most about casings

[Jacobe Hazzard]

Buggin69 wrote:
> the mushrooms can only grow UP
> damn was i getting tired of them growing straight down for no reason
> at all
> and no it's not a light problem... clear top, basically constant light

That *is* a light problem. I had problems using a clear top and constant
light, but when I switched light sources the shrooms became more well
behaved, upright citizens.

Try the various recommended flavours of fluorescents, some of them work very
well.

jacobe

[Buggin69]

Jacobe Hazzard wrote:
> Buggin69 wrote:
>> the mushrooms can only grow UP
>> damn was i getting tired of them growing straight down for no reason
>> at all
>> and no it's not a light problem... clear top, basically constant
>> light
>
> That *is* a light problem. I had problems using a clear top and
> constant light, but when I switched light sources the shrooms became
> more well behaved, upright citizens.
>
> Try the various recommended flavours of fluorescents, some of them
> work very well.
>
> jacobe

it has everything from sun light to flourescent to incandescent to a
black light on it at any given point in the day

[liteage1]

use the growlux fluorescent lites.
there sold in 18" two lite setup.
wall-mart
home depo
cheers

Jacobe Hazzard wrote:
> Buggin69 wrote
>> the mushrooms can only grow UP
>> damn was i getting tired of them growing straight down for no reason
>> at all
>> and no it's not a light problem... clear top, basically constant
>> light
>
> That *is* a light problem. I had problems using a clear top and
> constant light, but when I switched light sources the shrooms became
> more well behaved, upright citizens.
>
> Try the various recommended flavours of fluorescents, some of them
> work very well.
>
> jacobe

[michael]

On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 23:57:16 GMT, "Buggin69" <buggin69@cox.net> wrote:

>Jacobe Hazzard wrote:
>> Buggin69 wrote:
>>> the mushrooms can only grow UP
>>> damn was i getting tired of them growing straight down for no reason
>>> at all
>>> and no it's not a light problem... clear top, basically constant
>>> light
>>
>> That *is* a light problem. I had problems using a clear top and
>> constant light, but when I switched light sources the shrooms became
>> more well behaved, upright citizens.
>>
>> Try the various recommended flavours of fluorescents, some of them
>> work very well.
>>
>> jacobe
>
>it has everything from sun light to flourescent to incandescent to a
>black light on it at any given point in the day
>
thought pf's albino mutants came from blacklight.

[Buggin69]

michael wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 23:57:16 GMT, "Buggin69" <buggin69@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Jacobe Hazzard wrote:
>>> Buggin69 wrote:
>>>> the mushrooms can only grow UP
>>>> damn was i getting tired of them growing straight down for no
>>>> reason at all
>>>> and no it's not a light problem... clear top, basically constant
>>>> light
>>>
>>> That *is* a light problem. I had problems using a clear top and
>>> constant light, but when I switched light sources the shrooms became
>>> more well behaved, upright citizens.
>>>
>>> Try the various recommended flavours of fluorescents, some of them
>>> work very well.
>>>
>>> jacobe
>>
>> it has everything from sun light to flourescent to incandescent to a
>> black light on it at any given point in the day
>>
> thought pf's albino mutants came from blacklight.


the main light source is natural... then incandescent... then
flourescent... then occasionally a blacklight is on
all these lights just happen to be in the room
my point was just that they get lights of all kinds so if they aren't
gettign enough to figure out what way to go... they probably never will

[Molly]

"Buggin69" <buggin69@cox.net> wrote in
news:Yy6La.334678$3n5.286614@news2.central.cox.net :

> michael wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 23:57:16 GMT, "Buggin69" <buggin69@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Jacobe Hazzard wrote:
>>>> Buggin69 wrote:
>>>>> the mushrooms can only grow UP
>>>>> damn was i getting tired of them growing straight down for no
>>>>> reason at all
>>>>> and no it's not a light problem... clear top, basically constant
>>>>> light
>>>>
>>>> That *is* a light problem. I had problems using a clear top and
>>>> constant light, but when I switched light sources the shrooms became
>>>> more well behaved, upright citizens.
>>>>
>>>> Try the various recommended flavours of fluorescents, some of them
>>>> work very well.
>>>>
>>>> jacobe
>>>
>>> it has everything from sun light to flourescent to incandescent to a
>>> black light on it at any given point in the day
>>>
>> thought pf's albino mutants came from blacklight.
>
>
> the main light source is natural... then incandescent... then
> flourescent... then occasionally a blacklight is on
> all these lights just happen to be in the room
> my point was just that they get lights of all kinds so if they aren't
> gettign enough to figure out what way to go... they probably never will
>
>
>

I think you should be fine buggin, sounds like you have it all wrapped up
in a neat little package...hehe

Molly

[michael]

On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 01:54:00 GMT, "Buggin69" <buggin69@cox.net> wrote:

>michael wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 23:57:16 GMT, "Buggin69" <buggin69@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Jacobe Hazzard wrote:
>>>> Buggin69 wrote:
>>>>> the mushrooms can only grow UP
>>>>> damn was i getting tired of them growing straight down for no
>>>>> reason at all
>>>>> and no it's not a light problem... clear top, basically constant
>>>>> light
>>>>
>>>> That *is* a light problem. I had problems using a clear top and
>>>> constant light, but when I switched light sources the shrooms became
>>>> more well behaved, upright citizens.
>>>>
>>>> Try the various recommended flavours of fluorescents, some of them
>>>> work very well.
>>>>
>>>> jacobe
>>>
>>> it has everything from sun light to flourescent to incandescent to a
>>> black light on it at any given point in the day
>>>
>> thought pf's albino mutants came from blacklight.
>
>
>the main light source is natural... then incandescent... then
>flourescent... then occasionally a blacklight is on
>all these lights just happen to be in the room
>my point was just that they get lights of all kinds so if they aren't
>gettign enough to figure out what way to go... they probably never will
>

just letting you know that pf's mutants supposedly came from the
blacklite.

[Jacobe Hazzard]

Buggin69 wrote:
> the main light source is natural... then incandescent... then
> flourescent... then occasionally a blacklight is on
> all these lights just happen to be in the room
> my point was just that they get lights of all kinds so if they aren't
> gettign enough to figure out what way to go... they probably never
> will

The primary light source should be fluorescent. I use a small 6" long tube
in a 12V fixture, compact fluorescents can also work very well.

Surprisingly enough, sunlight is not as good, and incandescent light is very
poor. Switch to a proper fluorescent tube and you will notice a difference.

jacobe

[Buggin69]

michael wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 01:54:00 GMT, "Buggin69" <buggin69@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> michael wrote:
>>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 23:57:16 GMT, "Buggin69" <buggin69@cox.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jacobe Hazzard wrote:
>>>>> Buggin69 wrote:
>>>>>> the mushrooms can only grow UP
>>>>>> damn was i getting tired of them growing straight down for no
>>>>>> reason at all
>>>>>> and no it's not a light problem... clear top, basically constant
>>>>>> light
>>>>>
>>>>> That *is* a light problem. I had problems using a clear top and
>>>>> constant light, but when I switched light sources the shrooms
>>>>> became more well behaved, upright citizens.
>>>>>
>>>>> Try the various recommended flavours of fluorescents, some of them
>>>>> work very well.
>>>>>
>>>>> jacobe
>>>>
>>>> it has everything from sun light to flourescent to incandescent to
>>>> a black light on it at any given point in the day
>>>>
>>> thought pf's albino mutants came from blacklight.
>>
>>
>> the main light source is natural... then incandescent... then
>> flourescent... then occasionally a blacklight is on
>> all these lights just happen to be in the room
>> my point was just that they get lights of all kinds so if they aren't
>> gettign enough to figure out what way to go... they probably never
>> will
>>
>
> just letting you know that pf's mutants supposedly came from the
> blacklite.


appreciate it
:)

[Buggin69]

Molly wrote:
> "Buggin69" <buggin69@cox.net> wrote in
> news:Yy6La.334678$3n5.286614@news2.central.cox.net :
>
>> michael wrote:
>>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 23:57:16 GMT, "Buggin69" <buggin69@cox.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jacobe Hazzard wrote:
>>>>> Buggin69 wrote:
>>>>>> the mushrooms can only grow UP
>>>>>> damn was i getting tired of them growing straight down for no
>>>>>> reason at all
>>>>>> and no it's not a light problem... clear top, basically constant
>>>>>> light
>>>>>
>>>>> That *is* a light problem. I had problems using a clear top and
>>>>> constant light, but when I switched light sources the shrooms
>>>>> became more well behaved, upright citizens.
>>>>>
>>>>> Try the various recommended flavours of fluorescents, some of them
>>>>> work very well.
>>>>>
>>>>> jacobe
>>>>
>>>> it has everything from sun light to flourescent to incandescent to
>>>> a black light on it at any given point in the day
>>>>
>>> thought pf's albino mutants came from blacklight.
>>
>>
>> the main light source is natural... then incandescent... then
>> flourescent... then occasionally a blacklight is on
>> all these lights just happen to be in the room
>> my point was just that they get lights of all kinds so if they aren't
>> gettign enough to figure out what way to go... they probably never
>> will
>>
>>
>>
>
> I think you should be fine buggin, sounds like you have it all
> wrapped up in a neat little package...hehe
>
> Molly


yes, all is well now... if any mushrooms grow down now they will have
their own trouble to worry about... like getting through an aluminum
tray

as far as neat little package goes
well let's just say i'm king of the ghetto rig
;)

[no@spamtoday]

"Jacobe Hazzard" wrote:
> That *is* a light problem.

Not always! I can think of four other reasons of the mushrooms not growing
straight up:

a) it is a sterile mushroom (one which doesn't produce spores). An early
sign that a cubensis mushroom will not produce viable spores (usually the
gills won't become dark either) often is that it doesn't grow into the
direction of the light

b) high temperature. Especially when the temperatures are in the high
eighties (F) or high twenties (C) the mushrooms seem to grow too fast. So
fast that they can not grow towards the light. They try but fall over.

c) white floor of the container (perlite for instance). Then so much light
is reflected that the mushrooms can not see the difference between the light
from the floor and the light from above.

d) the light is not blue enough. Mushrooms do not react towards light which
has a longer wavelength than blue.

Yachaj

[Buggin69]

no@spamtoday wrote:
> "Jacobe Hazzard" wrote:
>> That *is* a light problem.
>
> Not always! I can think of four other reasons of the mushrooms not
> growing straight up:
>
> a) it is a sterile mushroom (one which doesn't produce spores). An
> early sign that a cubensis mushroom will not produce viable spores
> (usually the gills won't become dark either) often is that it doesn't
> grow into the direction of the light

posibility

>
> b) high temperature. Especially when the temperatures are in the high
> eighties (F) or high twenties (C) the mushrooms seem to grow too
> fast. So fast that they can not grow towards the light. They try but
> fall over.

probably not

>
> c) white floor of the container (perlite for instance). Then so much
> light is reflected that the mushrooms can not see the difference
> between the light from the floor and the light from above.
>

definately not

> d) the light is not blue enough. Mushrooms do not react towards light
> which has a longer wavelength than blue.
>

i'll get another light and see but i'll bet on the first one