2 DXM abuse deaths in Sweden. Anyone read Swedish here?

[rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski]

http://www.dextroverse.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=15&t=1555

VERY Rough Translation (by PeoplesMind) :
Title : Police Warn A Fresh Drug Solicitation

In {Nyköping?}, a youth and orphan in healing died from a fatal
preparation of DXM he bought over the internet, it's first victim many
known using cities (where the drug is circulated). His friend found him
and called police. The police don't know weather DXM is illegal or the
internet shops are illegal. According to the internet, the drug is
reported to be like escasty, a good dance drug, and as if it were LSD,
provoke hallucinations. If DXM is mixed with alcohol and
{pharmasucitcals?}, it is more likly to cause death. On Tuesday, a
23-year old died from a mix of DXM with {chum in an sommarstuga?}. ~"We
have not encountered this drug before" says Lars Pack, an {?} in
{Nyköping?}, Sweeden. ~"Many youth are expirementing with drugs, and
finding DXM." No reports of the drug have been made in Sweden before but
there have been international warnings.

Read Article (in Swedish) :
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=147&a=173470&previousRenderType=2

-----

Somehow I've gotta find someone who knows Swedish and English
fluently to translate this cleanly. I'm guessing that first death (the
"orphan in healing") may involve pure DXM powder, because they are
mentioning the Internet. The second death of that 23 year old apparently
involved another drug. And if this news report is correct, there must be
some really bad information about DXM on Swedish language drug sites.
DXM is like Ecstasy and a good dance drug? No English language DXM
website worth mentioning says that about it. The only part that is right
is that it DXM is like LSD, by which they just meant "is a psychedelic
drug."

Anyone know the Swedish language equivalent Usenet newsgroup to
alt.drugs? There has got to be plenty of people from Sweden on the
Internet who can translate this. Since I'd like to put this on my
website, that would require a decent translation.
--
http://www.dextromethorphan.ws/
For information about the psychedelic drug DXM, including dangers.

[P.A]

I've sent a translation to your e-mail adress. DXM has become quite popular
here because it's really cheap and it's easy to obtain.

> some really bad information about DXM on Swedish language drug sites.
> DXM is like Ecstasy and a good dance drug? No English language DXM
> website worth mentioning says that about it.

I'm not surprised at all, my guess is that the police / or the media talked
to some militant anti drug organisation and they have no knowledge what so
ever about the effects of psychedelic drugs.
Here are some examples from www.drogfritt.nu :

* Ecstasy causes internal bleedings
* Ecstasy and LSD is stored in the fat cells in the brain, this causes
flashbacks several years after using the drug.

I found a book at the library which this organisation has given out, i
thought i'd borrow it for a good laugh.According to this book even SSRI
substances has become a street drug in the U.S and is now abused like
heroine, with a needle (!!!). The stories about LSD abuse is also very
entertaining / disturbing.

The mix up with E could also be because DXM sometimes has been found in
Ecstasy, according to some internet pages. There aren't any Swedish sites
which has information about DXM, not to my knowledge, if there are any
they're probably on pair with www.drogfritt.nu ....

[rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski]

P.A wrote:
> I've sent a translation to your e-mail adress. DXM has become quite
> popular here because it's really cheap and it's easy to obtain.

I just e-mailed you a response to that. How is it cheap and easy to
obtain? Cough medicines in drug stores?

>> some really bad information about DXM on Swedish language drug sites.
>> DXM is like Ecstasy and a good dance drug? No English language DXM
>> website worth mentioning says that about it.
>
> I'm not surprised at all, my guess is that the police / or the media
> talked to some militant anti drug organisation and they have no
> knowledge what so ever about the effects of psychedelic drugs.
> Here are some examples from www.drogfritt.nu :
>
> * Ecstasy causes internal bleedings
> * Ecstasy and LSD is stored in the fat cells in the brain, this causes
> flashbacks several years after using the drug.
>
> I found a book at the library which this organisation has given out, i
> thought i'd borrow it for a good laugh.According to this book even
> SSRI substances has become a street drug in the U.S and is now abused
> like heroine, with a needle (!!!). The stories about LSD abuse is
> also very entertaining / disturbing.
>
> The mix up with E could also be because DXM sometimes has been found
> in Ecstasy, according to some internet pages. There aren't any
> Swedish sites which has information about DXM, not to my knowledge,
> if there are any they're probably on pair with www.drogfritt.nu ....

I noticed from your translation the called DXM a "nerve poison." And,
nowhere do they mention it is a cough suppressant commonly found in
legal medicines. Nor do the ever mention the chemical name
(dextromethorphan), but instead always call it "DXM". Sound like they
were both trying to demonize it by using an acronym, and try and hide
the fact this is just an ordinary cold medicine.
--
http://www.dextromethorphan.ws/
For information about the psychedelic drug DXM, including dangers.

[P.A]

"rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" <rfgdxm@vivisectSPAMMERSmochamail.com> skrev
i meddelandet news:3f496ca8$0$163$892e7fe2@authen.puce.readfreen ews.net...

> How is it cheap and easy to
> obtain? Cough medicines in drug stores?

No, a web site, like $2 for 1 gram. But of course, DXM disappeard from the
site the same day as the the death was annonced in the news.

The cough medicine containing DXM is a prescription drug here.

> I noticed from your translation the called DXM a "nerve poison." And,
> nowhere do they mention it is a cough suppressant commonly found in
> legal medicines. Nor do the ever mention the chemical name
> (dextromethorphan), but instead always call it "DXM". Sound like they
> were both trying to demonize it by using an acronym, and try and hide
> the fact this is just an ordinary cold medicine.

Probably the case.

[rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski]

P.A wrote:
> "rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" <rfgdxm@vivisectSPAMMERSmochamail.com>
> skrev i meddelandet
> news:3f496ca8$0$163$892e7fe2@authen.puce.readfreen ews.net...
>
>> How is it cheap and easy to
>> obtain? Cough medicines in drug stores?
>
> No, a web site, like $2 for 1 gram. But of course, DXM disappeard
> from the site the same day as the the death was annonced in the news.
>
> The cough medicine containing DXM is a prescription drug here.

Hmm...I seem to recall in Sweden that DXM was scheduled in the pure
form. Is this still the case? That website may have been breaking the
law.
--
http://www.dextromethorphan.ws/
For information about the psychedelic drug DXM, including dangers.

[Guess Who!]

"rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" <rfgdxm@vivisectSPAMMERSmochamail.com> wrote in message news:<3f494322$0$155$892e7fe2@authen.puce.readfreenews.n et>...
> rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski wrote:
> > http://www.dextroverse.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=15&t=1555
> >
> > VERY Rough Translation (by PeoplesMind) :
> > Title : Police Warn A Fresh Drug Solicitation
> >
> > In {Nyköping?}, a youth and orphan in healing died from a fatal
> > preparation of DXM he bought over the internet, it's first victim many
> > known using cities (where the drug is circulated). His friend found
> > him and called police. The police don't know weather DXM is illegal
> > or the internet shops are illegal. According to the internet, the
> > drug is reported to be like escasty, a good dance drug, and as if it
> > were LSD, provoke hallucinations. If DXM is mixed with alcohol and
> > {pharmasucitcals?}, it is more likly to cause death. On Tuesday, a
> > 23-year old died from a mix of DXM with {chum in an sommarstuga?}.
> > ~"We have not encountered this drug before" says Lars Pack, an {?} in
> > {Nyköping?}, Sweeden. ~"Many youth are expirementing with drugs, and
> > finding DXM." No reports of the drug have been made in Sweden before
> > but there have been international warnings.
> >
> > Read Article (in Swedish) :
> >
> http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=147&a=173470&previousRenderType=2
> >
> > -----
> >
> > Somehow I've gotta find someone who knows Swedish and English
> > fluently to translate this cleanly. I'm guessing that first death (the
> > "orphan in healing") may involve pure DXM powder, because they are
> > mentioning the Internet. The second death of that 23 year old
> > apparently involved another drug. And if this news report is correct,
> > there must be some really bad information about DXM on Swedish
> > language drug sites. DXM is like Ecstasy and a good dance drug? No
> > English language DXM website worth mentioning says that about it. The
> > only part that is right is that it DXM is like LSD, by which they
> > just meant "is a psychedelic drug."
> >
> > Anyone know the Swedish language equivalent Usenet newsgroup to
> > alt.drugs? There has got to be plenty of people from Sweden on the
> > Internet who can translate this. Since I'd like to put this on my
> > website, that would require a decent translation.
>
> Want to see a truly horrible robot translation of the above? Read
> below:
>
> http://www.tranexp.com:2000/
>
> Police am warning for fresh drug
>
> Socialtjänsten and police in Nyköping am warning youth and orphan in
> heal Sweden for one nytt fatal prepare DXM , as now feel had claims sits
> first dödsoffer , a 23- ring frn cities. Preparatet is one nervgift as
> säljs p Internet , and youth deceive that faith that it has same
> impression as rejvdrogen ecstasy , namely the energigivande elation as
> fr youth that have the strength to dance a good deal night. DXM had yet
> nots versatile the impression devoid is a hallucinogen drug , as as it
> were LSD able provoke svra hallucinations. If DXM moreover spent
> together with alcohol and psykofarmaka has it a high gifteffekt and able
> quickly lead to dead. It was whatever presumably happened a rig husband
> frn Nyköping tonight to the Tuesday. 23- halos taken preparatet together
> with a chum in an sommarstuga out Nyköping. P tisdagsmorgonen each 23-
> halos dead , and companion alarm police. When police arrived at
> sommarstugan be able husband only ascertain that 23- halos each dead. He
> and companion had order DXM p Internet. It was deceased 23- halos as had
> internetkunskaperna for that kunna surfer p nätet , communicate with
> second and p the appear ragged pull p preparatet. For vr part p
> socialtjänsten arrived this paternal novelties. We have nots encountered
> p preparatet olds. But p intermationella hemsidor had husband admonished
> for the behind second death about of today the world , says Lars Pack ,
> manager for socialtjänstens missbruksenhet in Nyköping. This is a
> almighty oroväckande development p drogfronten. Should DXM scatter in
> ungdomskretsar should the kunna ragged förödande effect. Mnga youth have
> a bias that want experiment with nya drugs and nya the type of prepare ,
> and the find amount of skrupelfria manufacturers , as säljer sdan here
> dirt and deceives p aningslösa youth the , says Lars Pack. Gunnar
> Sörbring

Yea! I can cross post properly like RFG thinks I should NOW!

[rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski]

Guess Who! wrote:

> Having abandoned AOL for the NG postings -- I will be using my main
> ISP via google from now on out. For those of you who know me no
> more information is needed. For those of you who do not -- no
> information would help. YEA! I'm not a desperate loser any longer.

Doesn't the Mac have any decent newsreaders? Google tends to be bad
because posts are slow in arriving. news.individual.net give out posting
privs on a real NNTP server.
--
http://www.dextromethorphan.ws/
For information about the psychedelic drug DXM, including dangers.

[rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski]

Guess Who! wrote:

> I don't really like the time delay it takes to post via this ISP and
> google.
> To hell with cross posting and the proper news posting process. I'm
> going back to AOL -- where I can be ME and be FREE!.
>
> YOU WILL RSPECT MY ATHORITY!!!

http://news.individual.net

Faster even than AOL. And, free.
--
http://www.dextromethorphan.ws/
For information about the psychedelic drug DXM, including dangers.

[Dan Clore]

"rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" wrote:
>
> http://www.dextroverse.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=15&t=1555
>
> VERY Rough Translation (by PeoplesMind) :
> Title : Police Warn A Fresh Drug Solicitation
>
> In {Nyköping?}, a youth and orphan in healing died from a fatal
> preparation of DXM he bought over the internet, it's first victim many
> known using cities (where the drug is circulated). His friend found him
> and called police. The police don't know weather DXM is illegal or the
> internet shops are illegal. According to the internet, the drug is
> reported to be like escasty, a good dance drug, and as if it were LSD,
> provoke hallucinations. If DXM is mixed with alcohol and
> {pharmasucitcals?}, it is more likly to cause death. On Tuesday, a
> 23-year old died from a mix of DXM with {chum in an sommarstuga?}. ~"We
> have not encountered this drug before" says Lars Pack, an {?} in
> {Nyköping?}, Sweeden. ~"Many youth are expirementing with drugs, and
> finding DXM." No reports of the drug have been made in Sweden before but
> there have been international warnings.
>
> Read Article (in Swedish) :
> http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=147&a=173470&previousRenderType=2
>
> -----
>
> Somehow I've gotta find someone who knows Swedish and English
> fluently to translate this cleanly.

It translates back into Swedish just fine:

In {Nyköpeeng?}, a yuoot und oorphun in heeleeng deeed frum
a fetel prepereshun ooff DXM he-a buooght oofer zee
internet, it's furst feectim muny knoon useeng ceeties
(vhere-a zee droog is curcooleted). Hees freeend fuoond heem
und celled puleece-a. Zee puleece-a dun't knoo veezeer DXM
is illegel oor zee internet shups ere-a illegel. Eccurdeeng
tu zee internet, zee droog is repurted tu be-a leeke-a
iscesty, a guud dunce-a droog, und es iff it vere-a LSD,
prufuke-a hellooceeneshuns. Um gesh dee bork, bork! Iff DXM
is meexed veet elcuhul und {phermesooceetcels?}, it is
mure-a leekly tu coose-a deet. Oon Tooesdey, a 23-yeer oold
deeed frum a meex ooff DXM veet {choom in un summerstooga?}.
~"Ve-a hefe-a nut incuoontered thees droog beffure-a" seys
Lers Peck, un {?} in {Nyköpeeng?}, Sveedee. ~"Muny yuoot
ere-a ixpurementeeng veet droogs, und feending DXM." Nu
repurts ooff zee droog hefe-a beee mede-a in Svedee
beffure-a boot zeere-a hefe-a beee interneshunel verneengs.
Um gesh dee bork, bork!

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[PeoplesMind]

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:20:13 -0700, Dan Clore
<clore@columbia-center.org> wrote:

>"rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" wrote:
>>
>> http://www.dextroverse.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=15&t=1555
>>
>> VERY Rough Translation (by PeoplesMind) :

.....

>> Title : Police Warn A Fresh Drug Solicitation
>>
>> In {Nyköping?}, a youth and orphan in healing died from a fatal
>> preparation of DXM he bought over the internet, it's first victim many
>> known using cities (where the drug is circulated). His friend found him
>> and called police. The police don't know weather DXM is illegal or the
>> internet shops are illegal. According to the internet, the drug is
>> reported to be like escasty, a good dance drug, and as if it were LSD,
>> provoke hallucinations. If DXM is mixed with alcohol and
>> {pharmasucitcals?}, it is more likly to cause death. On Tuesday, a
>> 23-year old died from a mix of DXM with {chum in an sommarstuga?}. ~"We
>> have not encountered this drug before" says Lars Pack, an {?} in
>> {Nyköping?}, Sweeden. ~"Many youth are expirementing with drugs, and
>> finding DXM." No reports of the drug have been made in Sweden before but
>> there have been international warnings.
>>
>> Read Article (in Swedish) :
>> http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=147&a=173470&previousRenderType=2
>>
>
>It translates back into Swedish just fine:
>
>In {Nyköpeeng?}, a yuoot und oorphun in heeleeng deeed frum
>a fetel prepereshun ooff DXM he-a buooght oofer zee
>internet, it's furst feectim muny knoon useeng ceeties
>(vhere-a zee droog is curcooleted). Hees freeend fuoond heem
>und celled puleece-a. Zee puleece-a dun't knoo veezeer DXM
>is illegel oor zee internet shups ere-a illegel. Eccurdeeng
>tu zee internet, zee droog is repurted tu be-a leeke-a
>iscesty, a guud dunce-a droog, und es iff it vere-a LSD,
>prufuke-a hellooceeneshuns. Um gesh dee bork, bork! Iff DXM
>is meexed veet elcuhul und {phermesooceetcels?}, it is
>mure-a leekly tu coose-a deet. Oon Tooesdey, a 23-yeer oold
>deeed frum a meex ooff DXM veet {choom in un summerstooga?}.
>~"Ve-a hefe-a nut incuoontered thees droog beffure-a" seys
>Lers Peck, un {?} in {Nyköpeeng?}, Sveedee. ~"Muny yuoot
>ere-a ixpurementeeng veet droogs, und feending DXM." Nu
>repurts ooff zee droog hefe-a beee mede-a in Svedee
>beffure-a boot zeere-a hefe-a beee interneshunel verneengs.
>Um gesh dee bork, bork!

So was my translation fairly accurate? out of curosity =P

peace,
Nitin
---
Nitin (alias : PeoplesMind)
http://www.dextroverse.org