Privacy & Peer-to-Peer Progs

[DrownedLoader]

OK.... this is getting serious.

Do any of you download MP3's using one (or more) of the peer-to-peer utilities available (Kazaa, WinMX, Direct Connect, LimeWire, etc)?

You must be aware that the RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) has begun a veritable pogrom against this practice. Though it all sounds, frankly, far-fetched, they claim to be targeting individual users, like you and me.

Obviously, a method they could use would be to identify the IP of the user (apparently quite visible on p2p betworks), trace it back to his/her ISP, and legally force the ISP to block such traffic; bar the user altogether, or give the name of the user to the RIAA.

My question is - is there ANY way to anonymise my IP while using one of the above utilities? I know how to use the mail-to-news system on Usenet (using the QuickSilver remailer); and I know how to use anonymous proxies while surfing the web (I use Proxomitron for this) .... but I'm stumped with the p2p angle.

Does anyone have any suggestions? Or, better still, links to further information or tools? Thanks.

[Use.Netuser.de]

"DrownedLoader" <Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header> wrote...
> OK.... this is getting serious.
Why? You and another 45Million users use p2p.

> Do any of you download MP3's using one (or more) of the peer-to-peer
utilities available (Kazaa, WinMX, Direct Connect, LimeWire, etc)?
Yup

> You must be aware that the RIAA (Recording Industry Association of
America) has begun a veritable pogrom against this practice. Though it all
sounds, frankly, far-fetched, they claim to be targeting individual users,
like you and me.
Yup and I reckon around 200 of the 45 Million will get their fingers
slapped.

> Obviously, a method they could use would be to identify the IP of the user
(apparently quite visible on p2p betworks), trace it back to his/her ISP,
and legally force the ISP to block such traffic; bar the user altogether, or
give the name of the user to the RIAA.
Yup sounds pretty reasonable.

> My question is - is there ANY way to anonymise my IP while using one of
the above utilities? I know how to use the mail-to-news system on Usenet
(using the QuickSilver remailer); and I know how to use anonymous proxies
while surfing the web (I use Proxomitron for this) .... but I'm stumped with
the p2p angle.
There is no iron clad method of securing your p2p traffic without a deficit
in terms of bandwidth but several encrypted p2p apps have surfaced which may
or may not included proxies that mask the originator/recipient IP's.

> Does anyone have any suggestions? Or, better still, links to further
information or tools? Thanks.
http://www.slyck.com/
http://www.unitethecows.com/index.php
http://www.zeropaid.com/

[FrowningLoader]

In article <beg1i4$4mtao$1@ID-151068.news.dfncis.de>
"Use.Netuser.de" <NotTodayThanks@hotmail.com> whimpered:
>
> Why? You and another 45Million users use p2p.
>
> Yup
>
> Yup and I reckon around 200 of the 45 Million will get their fingers
> slapped.
>
> Yup sounds pretty reasonable.
>
> There is no iron clad method of securing your p2p traffic without a deficit
> in terms of bandwidth but several encrypted p2p apps have surfaced which may
> or may not included proxies that mask the originator/recipient IP's.
>

A simple "Sorry; I haven't a fucking clue" would have sufficed, thank you very much. "May or may not included proxies" indeed! Prat!

You're about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest.

[Use.Netuser.de]

"FrowningLoader" <fritz@rodent.frell.eu.org> wrote:
"Use.Netuser.de" <NotTodayThanks@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > There is no iron clad method of securing your p2p traffic without a
deficit in terms of bandwidth but several encrypted p2p apps have surfaced
which may or may not included proxies that mask the originator/recipient
IP's.
> >
> A simple "Sorry; I haven't a fucking clue" would have sufficed, thank you
very much. "May or may not included proxies" indeed! Prat!

Who kicked your pram? Time for your bottle no doubt

Earth Station 5 direct quote from Zero Paid discussing said p2p application.
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/articles/auto/06062003c.php
Note the use of the term PROXYING theirs not mine ......

_Many of the features announced for ES5 have aroused if not outright
hostility at least a fair amount of skepticism in the P2P community, with
outright rejection reserved for any claims of proxying. That feature is said
to be critical for the future of peer-to-peer systems if users are to be
insulated from subpoenas, court challenges and lawsuits from rights holders.
To date the RIAA has had its only real success attacking individual users
through their open IP's but huge bandwidth costs have prevented the
widespread use of IP masking in other P2P's so far. Interestingly it's here
that the confident bluster of official statements and Taylor's own
boosterism part ways. He's unwilling to commit to the heady guarantee of
"complete anonymity" promised in a recent press release, allowing only that
the client has powerful protection, but it's not "infallible."_

Earth Station 5 direct quote from their site ...........
http://www.earthstation5.com/stealth.html

ONE CLICK PROXY SERVER - Users can send connection requests through
intermediary proxy servers located throughout the world so that the download
destination of a file cannot be traced by any entity whatsoever. There is
nothing for the user to set-up, just right click to enable the proxy server.

> You're about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest.

Your just a lazy fcuk that wants to be spoon fed ..... on solids already my
you're a big boy.

Now try to be nice and I promise I'll do the same ;-)

[Intruder9]

Not sticking up for him, but he did not ask the question my boy, the first
poster did, Duhhh?

[KillingJoke]

"DrownedLoader" <Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header> wrote in message
news:ZX6DB4KO37810.9067939815@anonymous.poster...
| OK.... this is getting serious.
|
| Do any of you download MP3's using one (or more) of the peer-to-peer
utilities available (Kazaa, WinMX, Direct Connect, LimeWire, etc)?
|
| You must be aware that the RIAA (Recording Industry Association of
America) has begun a veritable pogrom against this practice. Though it all
sounds, frankly, far-fetched, they claim to be targeting individual users,
like you and me.
|
| Obviously, a method they could use would be to identify the IP of the user
(apparently quite visible on p2p betworks), trace it back to his/her ISP,
and legally force the ISP to block such traffic; bar the user altogether, or
give the name of the user to the RIAA.
|
| My question is - is there ANY way to anonymise my IP while using one of
the above utilities? I know how to use the mail-to-news system on Usenet
(using the QuickSilver remailer); and I know how to use anonymous proxies
while surfing the web (I use Proxomitron for this) .... but I'm stumped with
the p2p angle.
|
| Does anyone have any suggestions? Or, better still, links to further
information or tools? Thanks.
|

If you're that bothered (and obviously paranoid) just stop downloading mp3s
is the most obvious thing to do. If the RIAA are gonna get you, they
ill - so f**cking what!!

Otherwise I suggest you move to a more tolerant country - extreme but it
would work for sure.

Have a nice day.

Kj

[Laughing_Loader]

LOL!

Thanks, folks.... but I've now got ALL the information/materials that I need (from OTHER sources) to make my p2p downloads safe & secure. And what a method! TOTAL IP masking/spoofing, choice of encryption protocols; with NO loss of speed, or connectability! Preliminary tests have been 100% succesful, and stable. Wow!

And thanks Use.Netuser.de; ricard259; KillingJoke; and paul s.

Your clueless, "I-really-don't-know-but-I'm-afraid-to-say-it" - style answers were HUGELY entertaining! God, but I love to watch squirmers squirm!

Well; I'm off to download some more music & movies. Safely. None of YOU are. Bye!

...snigger!

[stelian]

Laughing_Loader wrote:

>LOL!

You fucking asshole! You are the clueless one you stupid cocksucker. "Preliminary
tests", you lame moron. Go shove your secret IP up you ass. Fuck off and die!

Sorry for the language, but insulting perfect strangers that try their best to help
him *for free*, is just something I can't take.


usenet@stelian.tk
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[paul s]

Laughing_Loader wrote:

> LOL!
>
> Thanks, folks.... but I've now got ALL the information/materials that I
> need (from OTHER sources) to make my p2p downloads safe & secure. And what
> a method! TOTAL IP masking/spoofing, choice of encryption protocols; with
> NO loss of speed, or connectability! Preliminary tests have been 100%
> succesful, and stable. Wow!

Yeh Yeh Yeh! Whatever keeps you happy.

> And thanks Use.Netuser.de; ricard259; KillingJoke; and paul s.
>
> Your clueless, "I-really-don't-know-but-I'm-afraid-to-say-it" - style
> answers were HUGELY entertaining! God, but I love to watch squirmers
> squirm!
>
> Well; I'm off to download some more music & movies. Safely. None of YOU
> are. Bye!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
--
Paul S

[miner]

"Laughing_Loader" <fritz@rodent.frell.eu.org> wrote in message
news:2fd3f6b98c9f0a7138056b4399fcd75e@remailer.fre ll.eu.org...
>
> Your clueless, "I-really-don't-know-but-I'm-afraid-to-say-it" - style
answers were HUGELY entertaining! God, but I love to watch squirmers squirm!
>

since you cross-posted this to rec.drugs.psychedelic you probably find a lot
of things HUGELY entertaining that no one else does.

[Use.Netuser.01]

"Laughing_Loader" <fritz@rodent.frell.eu.org> wrote...

This brave one needs reaction ..... just another delusional troll trying to
bait us.