My Quest For The Legal Holy Grail

[Squirrel Police]

The time has come to find a legal alternative to pot. I'm not looking for
an exact anologue, mind you - I recognize that no such thing exists.
I'm simply looking for a substance (preferably smokable) that can give
me a sense of euphoria and otherness for an evening, without any lasting
ill effects.

Pot is nice but the repercussions of getting busted right now would be
too terrible to consider. I'm a smart user, but the vagaries of chance
are not to be trusted.

So anyway, I've gone through the lists of legal highs and rejected
one after the other because of 1. inneffectiveness or 2. habituation
or other negative health effects.

Here are the survivors - does anyone have any input?

1. Wild Dagga or Lion's Tail
2. Salvia - I know it's a hallucinogen, but I've read reports of
small doses resulting in a nice relaxing buzz. Is this comparable to MJ in
any way? How long does it last?

3. Datura - overall this is the kind of drug that is used once and then
avoided at all costs - but once again I've heard reports that low doses
can result in a nice high. But I've also heard that prolonged use of
this substance can result in heart damage. Any clarifications?

4. Amanitas - I've heard that smoking this can produce a "high"
feeling.

5. A. Colubrina or yopo seeds - these are very interesting. there is
very little information about these online. they are reported to
contain bufotenin. one report stated that the user got a euphoric
high after smoking only 2 seeds - while another user stated that they
extracted up to 100 seeds and smoked the extract without any
effect. my thoughts are possibly user 1 was getting a placebo high
or user 2 extracted the seeds improperly or both. Does anyone have
any first hand experience with these?

6. Kava, finally this seems to be a tried and true substance.
But apparently it causes liver damage - is this only after years,
decades of use? The preferred preparation is a tea. Does smoking
produce good results? What about this scaly skin condition I've
heard about? does that go away?

[Cannabidraake]

In news:alt.drugs.pot, goblinatrix@hotmail.com (Squirrel Police) posted
on 2 Jul 2003 01:07:23 -0700:

> Here are the survivors - does anyone have any input?
>
> 2. Salvia - I know it's a hallucinogen, but I've read reports of
> small doses resulting in a nice relaxing buzz. Is this comparable to MJ in
> any way? How long does it last?

Salvia is great in its own right, but it's like comparing lemons to
kiwis. (Sorry, I hate the apples to oranges cliche.)

Salvia is not good for toking and sitting around with your buddies. For
one thing, the "buzz" only lasts a few minutes and it has more of a
mental effect than anything else. The only thing you want to do on
Salvia is lie down really still and enjoy it while it lasts because it
doesn't last long. And oddly, trying to go back for seconds doesn't
seem to work all that well, at least for me.

They say only 10% of the people who order salvia actually order a second
time. It has that much of a failure rate amongst newbies and that makes
me pretty darned happy! Because if these people don't realize what
salvia is, then they'll leave it alone and maybe, just maybe it won't be
scheduled. Of course, in my view of the government, they'd spend
millions of dollars to make something illegal even if ONE person was
doing it.

> 3. Datura - overall this is the kind of drug that is used once and then
> avoided at all costs - but once again I've heard reports that low doses
> can result in a nice high. But I've also heard that prolonged use of
> this substance can result in heart damage. Any clarifications?

I dunno. I've heard of it though. Personally I'd like to get a good
dose of Damiana. It's supposed to be a "sex tea". I have some of the
leaves and I tried drinking some of the tea but it doesn't taste that
great. What little effects I got from it was probably my imaginative
anticipation.

Another one I have an interest in in calea zacatechichi. It's a dream
herb. Basically you make tea from the leaves, then roll some and smoke
it while you sip on the tea. Once you finish smoking and consume all
the tea, go to bed. You're supposed to have far more vivid dreams after
using calea zacatechichi.

Is it worth it? Probably not. I noticed that I have VERY vivid dreams
if I smoke a cigarette before bed, but this is only if I haven't been
smoking all day anyway. I'd like to keep a pack of cigarettes around
for the specific purpose of smoking one before bed, but if they're
around, I'll chain smoke'em, so I just choose not to buy any.

Cannabidraake
--
Do you listen to Jeff Rense's _Sightings_ radio show?
Discuss the show and more at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeff_rense_talk

[giacomo]

> In news:alt.drugs.pot, goblinatrix@hotmail.com (Squirrel Police) posted
> on 2 Jul 2003 01:07:23 -0700:

> Another one I have an interest in in calea zacatechichi. It's a dream
> herb. Basically you make tea from the leaves, then roll some and smoke
> it while you sip on the tea. Once you finish smoking and consume all
> the tea, go to bed. You're supposed to have far more vivid dreams after
> using calea zacatechichi.
>
> Is it worth it? Probably not. I noticed that I have VERY vivid dreams
> if I smoke a cigarette before bed, but this is only if I haven't been
> smoking all day anyway. I'd like to keep a pack of cigarettes around
> for the specific purpose of smoking one before bed, but if they're
> around, I'll chain smoke'em, so I just choose not to buy any.
>
> Cannabidraake
> --

Calea zacatechichi has a really bad aftertaste even after smoking, but i
admit having more vivid dreams after.
You're supposed to smoke before goinge to bed and for several days for the
effect to really kick in, but i never did it.
If only i could do away with the taste..

Giacomo

[Mark]

The BC Marijuana Party is playing a major role in bringing about the law changes in Canada that makes marijuana
possession in Ontario completely legal today and will make pot possession and use in all of Canada legal soon. The US
Marijuana Party, with help from the BC Marijuana Party, is striving to accomplish the same thing here in the US. We
need you to help make legalization a reality in the US. If you want to help check out http://usmjparty.com/ and act
accordingly
Mark
Chairman of the Oregon Marijuana Party

[giacomo]

"Mark" <mark@xprt.net> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:3F02F95C.1E6B8453@xprt.net...
> The BC Marijuana Party is playing a major role in bringing about the law
changes in Canada that makes marijuana
> possession in Ontario completely legal today and will make pot possession
and use in all of Canada legal soon. The US
> Marijuana Party, with help from the BC Marijuana Party, is striving to
accomplish the same thing here in the US. We
> need you to help make legalization a reality in the US. If you want to
help check out http://usmjparty.com/ and act
> accordingly
> Mark
> Chairman of the Oregon Marijuana Party
>
Last time I was in vancouver was a couple of years ago. I long for some
sweet BC bud..

Next time maybe =)

[Dave]

"ganjaman" <nsprakel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jvd5gvk1tig7e1g7q0sqsbfgedohv50fmd@4ax.com...
> On 2 Jul 2003 01:07:23 -0700, goblinatrix@hotmail.com (Squirrel
> Police) wrote:
>
> >The time has come to find a legal alternative to pot. I'm not looking for
> >an exact anologue, mind you - I recognize that no such thing exists.
> >I'm simply looking for a substance (preferably smokable) that can give
> >me a sense of euphoria and otherness for an evening, without any lasting
> >ill effects.
>
> Does it have to be a substance? Why not an activity like sex or
> meditation that stimulates the production of natural drugs
> (endorphins) in you brain?
> Music is a pretty safe drug and it's still legal.
>
> >
> >Pot is nice but the repercussions of getting busted right now would be
> >too terrible to consider. I'm a smart user, but the vagaries of chance
> >are not to be trusted.
> >[..]
>
> So if they would outlaw thinking, you'd find an alternative for that
> too?
> Don't you think that it's a bit unjustified and unreasonable that
> people are not allowed to enjoy cannabis while they are allowed to
> wreck their brain on alcohol?
>
....and everything else with tobacco!!

[Bob Q. Polk]

Bull. Smoke cannibis. Fuck the fascists.

Mark Easiest

"Squirrel Police" <goblinatrix@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:496203ee.0307020007.13793272@posting.google.c om...
> The time has come to find a legal alternative to pot. I'm not looking for
> an exact anologue, mind you - I recognize that no such thing exists.
> I'm simply looking for a substance (preferably smokable) that can give
> me a sense of euphoria and otherness for an evening, without any lasting
> ill effects.
>
> Pot is nice but the repercussions of getting busted right now would be
> too terrible to consider. I'm a smart user, but the vagaries of chance
> are not to be trusted.
>
> So anyway, I've gone through the lists of legal highs and rejected
> one after the other because of 1. inneffectiveness or 2. habituation
> or other negative health effects.
>
> Here are the survivors - does anyone have any input?
>
> 1. Wild Dagga or Lion's Tail
> 2. Salvia - I know it's a hallucinogen, but I've read reports of
> small doses resulting in a nice relaxing buzz. Is this comparable to MJ in
> any way? How long does it last?
>
> 3. Datura - overall this is the kind of drug that is used once and then
> avoided at all costs - but once again I've heard reports that low doses
> can result in a nice high. But I've also heard that prolonged use of
> this substance can result in heart damage. Any clarifications?
>
> 4. Amanitas - I've heard that smoking this can produce a "high"
> feeling.
>
> 5. A. Colubrina or yopo seeds - these are very interesting. there is
> very little information about these online. they are reported to
> contain bufotenin. one report stated that the user got a euphoric
> high after smoking only 2 seeds - while another user stated that they
> extracted up to 100 seeds and smoked the extract without any
> effect. my thoughts are possibly user 1 was getting a placebo high
> or user 2 extracted the seeds improperly or both. Does anyone have
> any first hand experience with these?
>
> 6. Kava, finally this seems to be a tried and true substance.
> But apparently it causes liver damage - is this only after years,
> decades of use? The preferred preparation is a tea. Does smoking
> produce good results? What about this scaly skin condition I've
> heard about? does that go away?

[Bobby]

That's what i'm talking about.

> Bull. Smoke cannibis. Fuck the fascists.
--
Rate Your Favorite Marijuana Seedbank at
http://www.marijuanapassion.com/FreeSeeds/earnit.cgi?mode=click&username=bobby

[Squirrel Police]

ganjaman <nsprakel@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<jvd5gvk1tig7e1g7q0sqsbfgedohv50fmd@4ax.com>...

> So if they would outlaw thinking, you'd find an alternative for that
> too?

Relax, kneejerk pot warriors. I'm just as potriotic as any of you,
I've just decided to quit for a while - I'm in some legal trouble
anyway and getting busted again is not a chance I'm willing to take.
I love the stuff, but I'm not willing to do time for it.

[Dr. Rev. Chuck, M.D. P.A.]

Squirrel Police wrote:
>
> ganjaman <nsprakel@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<jvd5gvk1tig7e1g7q0sqsbfgedohv50fmd@4ax.com>...
>
> > So if they would outlaw thinking, you'd find an alternative for that
> > too?
>
> Relax, kneejerk pot warriors. I'm just as potriotic as any of you,
> I've just decided to quit for a while - I'm in some legal trouble
> anyway and getting busted again is not a chance I'm willing to take.
> I love the stuff, but I'm not willing to do time for it.

2 days' sleep deprivation creates rather entertaining eyelid visuals.
Lots of Escherlike, cartoony tiled images, which constantly morph
into other Escherlike, cartoony tiled images. Free, and it can't
be detected with piss tests.

[Dave]

"Squirrel Police" <goblinatrix@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:496203ee.0307021844.4085f472@posting.google.c om...
> ganjaman <nsprakel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<jvd5gvk1tig7e1g7q0sqsbfgedohv50fmd@4ax.com>...
>
> > So if they would outlaw thinking, you'd find an alternative for that
> > too?
>
> Relax, kneejerk pot warriors. I'm just as potriotic as any of you,
> I've just decided to quit for a while - I'm in some legal trouble
> anyway and getting busted again is not a chance I'm willing to take.
> I love the stuff, but I'm not willing to do time for it.

Good man, it is great stuff but I know several people whose lives have been
totally fucked up because they took the bravado attitude of fuck 'em. It
didn't fuck ''em', but fucked the individuals up, totally. Unfortunate, but
state of play today...who knows, maybe in the future...come the revolution
etcetc... ;-)

[Darque Pervert]

Mark <mark@xprt.net> wrote in message news:<3F02F95C.1E6B8453@xprt.net>...

> The BC Marijuana Party is playing a major role in bringing about the law changes in Canada that makes marijuana
> possession in Ontario completely legal today and will make pot possession and use in all of Canada legal soon. The US
> Marijuana Party, with help from the BC Marijuana Party, is striving to accomplish the same thing here in the US. We
> need you to help make legalization a reality in the US. If you want to help check out http://usmjparty.com/ and act
> accordingly
> Mark
> Chairman of the Oregon Marijuana Party

OK. I perused your website. And the chain of MJ Party websites seems
pretty consistent.
The video was decidedly cheesy and definitely poor quality, but
content can always be improved upon.

My question is this: As a collective voice of 50-100 MJ Partys (a
national one plus 50 states, Canadian provinces and perhaps large
metro areas or regions), that's still not a lot of people.

Sadly, the people that influence policy aren't looking at pro-pot
websites, rather than mocking you. Sad but true, considering that
you're the epitome of what the American political system is all about.

I'm all for legalization or decriminalization. I think it's a silly
thing to be prohibited, and even scarier under the pretenses that U.S.
drug laws were enacted. I merely question the tactics, methodology
and what have you. I've always considered the Libertarians to be a
much more significant voice and they also have a pro-pot stance.
I'm actually curious about what numbers you have of supporters and
what sort of political clout you have anywhere, if any.

[Cathy Burke]

So when did Salvia become illegal in the US?? As far as I understood, it was
just listed in Australia?? Can anyone clarify this for me?


"Dave" <no-one@nowhere.org> wrote in message
news:qfYMa.11494$Ds.1402@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> "Squirrel Police" <goblinatrix@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:496203ee.0307021844.4085f472@posting.google.c om...
> > ganjaman <nsprakel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<jvd5gvk1tig7e1g7q0sqsbfgedohv50fmd@4ax.com>...
> >
> > > So if they would outlaw thinking, you'd find an alternative for that
> > > too?
> >
> > Relax, kneejerk pot warriors. I'm just as potriotic as any of you,
> > I've just decided to quit for a while - I'm in some legal trouble
> > anyway and getting busted again is not a chance I'm willing to take.
> > I love the stuff, but I'm not willing to do time for it.
>
> Good man, it is great stuff but I know several people whose lives have
been
> totally fucked up because they took the bravado attitude of fuck 'em. It
> didn't fuck ''em', but fucked the individuals up, totally. Unfortunate,
but
> state of play today...who knows, maybe in the future...come the revolution
> etcetc... ;-)
>
>

[red eye jedi]

"Mekkala" <joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93ADA40D64365Mekkala@199.45.49.11...
> On 02 Jul 2003, "red eye jedi" <astro1@nospamrogers.com> screwed up his
> face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
> news:4dxMa.40553$2ay.559@news01.bloor.is.net.cable .rogers.com:
>
> >
> > "Squirrel Police" <goblinatrix@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:496203ee.0307020007.13793272@posting.google.c om...
> >> The time has come to find a legal alternative to pot. I'm not looking
> >> for an exact anologue, mind you - I recognize that no such thing
> >> exists. I'm simply looking for a substance (preferably smokable) that
> >> can give me a sense of euphoria and otherness for an evening, without
> >> any lasting ill effects.
> >
> > Thats gonna be kinda difficult. Smoking anything will produce ill
> > effects.
> >
> >
> >> Pot is nice but the repercussions of getting busted right now would
> >> be too terrible to consider. I'm a smart user, but the vagaries of
> >> chance are not to be trusted.
> >
> > I dont know where you are, but if your smart, you should have no
> > problem. Unless your in the States I suppose.
>
> Doesn't matter. I live in the US, smoke all the time, as do all my
> friends, and none of us have ever gotten caught. In any case, even if
> you do get caught, just make sure you don't carry a full ounce and all
> you'll get is a bitch of a ticket. If you have an ounce of more it's
> intent to sell and IIRC the penalties are significantly higher.
>
> Not to mention you *aren't* going to find anything like MJ that's legal.
> Salvia's not legal anymore either, BTW. At least not in the US.


Man, there are so many reasons why I am glad I dont live in America.

/kc

[SATAN]

I believe it was "Cathy Burke" <cathyburke@cablerocket.com>
who thought we would be interested in the following:

-> So when did Salvia become illegal in the US?? As far as I understood, it was
-> just listed in Australia?? Can anyone clarify this for me?

Salvia is not illegal in the US, not on a federal level; however, I do
seem to recall hearing something about a few local jurisdictions making
it illegal.

It's on the DEA's "hit list" though and will probably be illegal in all
the US within a year or so.



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[James stedman]

Well for us convicted fellons it's a little different. Being on probation
all i have to do is fail one urine screen for MJ and I'll get 1 year. and
i'm only 19 and in college, just fucked up when i was in highschool (lit a
fire that got out of control). But the US likes to keep recidivism rates
high by locking fellons up for petty ass bullshit. But if it weren't my
damn urine screens i never would have found legal alternatives like DXM and
Salvia. So it's turned out to be a blessing is disguise, long as I don't
fail a urine screen (figures crossed) cause i do smoke a little MJ when it
comes my way. What can I say, I'm a drug addict.


"Mekkala" <joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93ADA40D64365Mekkala@199.45.49.11...
> On 02 Jul 2003, "red eye jedi" <astro1@nospamrogers.com> screwed up his
> face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
> news:4dxMa.40553$2ay.559@news01.bloor.is.net.cable .rogers.com:
>
> >
> > "Squirrel Police" <goblinatrix@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:496203ee.0307020007.13793272@posting.google.c om...
> >> The time has come to find a legal alternative to pot. I'm not looking
> >> for an exact anologue, mind you - I recognize that no such thing
> >> exists. I'm simply looking for a substance (preferably smokable) that
> >> can give me a sense of euphoria and otherness for an evening, without
> >> any lasting ill effects.
> >
> > Thats gonna be kinda difficult. Smoking anything will produce ill
> > effects.
> >
> >
> >> Pot is nice but the repercussions of getting busted right now would
> >> be too terrible to consider. I'm a smart user, but the vagaries of
> >> chance are not to be trusted.
> >
> > I dont know where you are, but if your smart, you should have no
> > problem. Unless your in the States I suppose.
>
> Doesn't matter. I live in the US, smoke all the time, as do all my
> friends, and none of us have ever gotten caught. In any case, even if
> you do get caught, just make sure you don't carry a full ounce and all
> you'll get is a bitch of a ticket. If you have an ounce of more it's
> intent to sell and IIRC the penalties are significantly higher.
>
> Not to mention you *aren't* going to find anything like MJ that's legal.
> Salvia's not legal anymore either, BTW. At least not in the US.
>
> --
> Mekkala, Atheist #2148
> "When did I realize I was God? Well, I was praying and I suddenly
> realized I was talking to myself!"
> --Peter O'Toole.

[James stedman]

possible explination for having vivid dreams while smoking cigarettes

I've noticed that smokers and others who use nicotine (people who dip even
more so) tend not to sleep as deeply as none smokers. They often are pulled
out of there sleep by their bodies craving for more nicotine. And from
personal experience I've noticed that it's when i've been woken up by some
disturbance (typically environmental in my cases), and then just gone back
to sleep, that I have and remember my most vivid dreams. Melatonin has this
effect on me, brings by minds alertness to the real world much earlier than
my body is ready for it. And I spend much time in the morning having more
vivid dreams.

James


"Cannabidraake" <cannabidraake@earthlink.invalid.net> wrote in message
news:ifc5gv8nkr3ehah8nugt17ueo4vt5981av@4ax.com...
> In news:alt.drugs.pot, goblinatrix@hotmail.com (Squirrel Police) posted
> on 2 Jul 2003 01:07:23 -0700:
>
> > Here are the survivors - does anyone have any input?
> >
> > 2. Salvia - I know it's a hallucinogen, but I've read reports of
> > small doses resulting in a nice relaxing buzz. Is this comparable to MJ
in
> > any way? How long does it last?
>
> Salvia is great in its own right, but it's like comparing lemons to
> kiwis. (Sorry, I hate the apples to oranges cliche.)
>
> Salvia is not good for toking and sitting around with your buddies. For
> one thing, the "buzz" only lasts a few minutes and it has more of a
> mental effect than anything else. The only thing you want to do on
> Salvia is lie down really still and enjoy it while it lasts because it
> doesn't last long. And oddly, trying to go back for seconds doesn't
> seem to work all that well, at least for me.
>
> They say only 10% of the people who order salvia actually order a second
> time. It has that much of a failure rate amongst newbies and that makes
> me pretty darned happy! Because if these people don't realize what
> salvia is, then they'll leave it alone and maybe, just maybe it won't be
> scheduled. Of course, in my view of the government, they'd spend
> millions of dollars to make something illegal even if ONE person was
> doing it.
>
> > 3. Datura - overall this is the kind of drug that is used once and then
> > avoided at all costs - but once again I've heard reports that low doses
> > can result in a nice high. But I've also heard that prolonged use of
> > this substance can result in heart damage. Any clarifications?
>
> I dunno. I've heard of it though. Personally I'd like to get a good
> dose of Damiana. It's supposed to be a "sex tea". I have some of the
> leaves and I tried drinking some of the tea but it doesn't taste that
> great. What little effects I got from it was probably my imaginative
> anticipation.
>
> Another one I have an interest in in calea zacatechichi. It's a dream
> herb. Basically you make tea from the leaves, then roll some and smoke
> it while you sip on the tea. Once you finish smoking and consume all
> the tea, go to bed. You're supposed to have far more vivid dreams after
> using calea zacatechichi.
>
> Is it worth it? Probably not. I noticed that I have VERY vivid dreams
> if I smoke a cigarette before bed, but this is only if I haven't been
> smoking all day anyway. I'd like to keep a pack of cigarettes around
> for the specific purpose of smoking one before bed, but if they're
> around, I'll chain smoke'em, so I just choose not to buy any.
>
> Cannabidraake
> --
> Do you listen to Jeff Rense's _Sightings_ radio show?
> Discuss the show and more at
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jeff_rense_talk

[James stedman]

I say it's a damn good website. True not the most sophisticated. But none
the less a semi public way to let people know how we feel. And i feel that
is good.

James

"Darque Pervert" <darquepervert@countercult.org> wrote in message
news:e4d916e.0307031007.5f9da9b@posting.google.com ...
> Mark <mark@xprt.net> wrote in message news:<3F02F95C.1E6B8453@xprt.net>...
>
> > The BC Marijuana Party is playing a major role in bringing about the law
changes in Canada that makes marijuana
> > possession in Ontario completely legal today and will make pot
possession and use in all of Canada legal soon. The US
> > Marijuana Party, with help from the BC Marijuana Party, is striving to
accomplish the same thing here in the US. We
> > need you to help make legalization a reality in the US. If you want to
help check out http://usmjparty.com/ and act
> > accordingly
> > Mark
> > Chairman of the Oregon Marijuana Party
>
> OK. I perused your website. And the chain of MJ Party websites seems
> pretty consistent.
> The video was decidedly cheesy and definitely poor quality, but
> content can always be improved upon.
>
> My question is this: As a collective voice of 50-100 MJ Partys (a
> national one plus 50 states, Canadian provinces and perhaps large
> metro areas or regions), that's still not a lot of people.
>
> Sadly, the people that influence policy aren't looking at pro-pot
> websites, rather than mocking you. Sad but true, considering that
> you're the epitome of what the American political system is all about.
>
> I'm all for legalization or decriminalization. I think it's a silly
> thing to be prohibited, and even scarier under the pretenses that U.S.
> drug laws were enacted. I merely question the tactics, methodology
> and what have you. I've always considered the Libertarians to be a
> much more significant voice and they also have a pro-pot stance.
> I'm actually curious about what numbers you have of supporters and
> what sort of political clout you have anywhere, if any.

[Lady Amanita, no one special today]

goblinatrix@hotmail.com (Squirrel Police) crawled forth from the tarpits
of hell and muttered:

> The time has come to find a legal alternative to pot

You may find something legal but it will never be as good as the real
thing. If it was any good, it would be illegal. "the Man" doesn't want
us to have fun.

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[rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski]

Weston Hutchens wrote:
>> Salvia's not legal anymore either, BTW. At least not in the US.
>
> i dont know where you get your information but i check the DEA
> website, Sagewisdom.org,and erowid and as far as they say savia is
> still legal...im not calling you a liar exactally but i am
> saying..show us your proof

Salvia is still legal in the US at this moment. Obviously they'll
eventually schedule that sinister sage, but it is still legal now.
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