Anyone Have any cool experiments going?

[KUSH]

Anyone Have any cool experiments going?

[legallyhomeless]

Im working on trying out 5 Gal buckets with a shower cap over the lid for humidity.

[Derrick]

im using buttermilk spores and some soil from wallmart, not to sure how it will turn out ill be sure to let you know:D

[the_chosen_one]

*breaks out 3" thick log book.

now let me see..

[NHMI]

tco wher ya beeeeeeeen, i missed you at the board...

[samrawet]

ya I try to working how to live a dead man

[zodman.]

grannys In the middle of gathering information for this project. granns a newb mycologist, but she's looking into growing truffles off of her body heat. Crazy I know. Ill be sure to tell you how it goes.

Any advice ore criticism would be welcomed.

[NHMI]

wtf? Truffles off body heat, I think someone ate too many mushies...lol.....You can grow em indoors just get a bag and fruit em invitro....I would read up on what specifics that shroom needs, like high FAE, etc, otherwise you'll possibly just end up wasting your time...

[Nicci]

I want to do a dunk with cakes but add food coloring to the water so the Myc will absorb the color and have festive mushies (pink and red for V-day, green and red for X-mas) I'll let you know how it goes

[NHMI]

i wonder if that will work since shrooms convert stuff they absorb...so i wonder if it will color it

[Nicci]

Ill post pics once they grow. I think they'll be ready for birth in about 5 days.

[NHMI]

keep us posted...

[ziggy5thstreet]

i am taking two differnt non leathal shrooms and im going to try to enhance the toxicity for a longer and more freaky high after cross breading them well thats a seperate batch from the ones im going to sell. i will be recording the reactions on lab mice for how the mushrooms affect them normally like heart rate how ther pupils look and stuff like that if the tests dont work on the mice ill have to find an animal that can be tested like that but the thing is i love animals and i dont want to hurt them so i think i will get some volenteres to sign a waver to make sure they cant sue me if anything happens

[ziggy5thstreet]

what do you think i feel like an evil scientist... T~T

[reefermadness16]

well i just cased some pink buffalos in ice cube trays ill let yall know how that goes

[NHMI]

Cool Reef


Man, don't go feeding shrooms to animals, that is just a fuct up thing to do. Eat em yourself...as for the crossing, use a LC or good luck. Keep us posted...

[bobby]

new test being done. if antone has any sugestion,there welcome. 6 plastic grow chambers, perlite on bottom,perlite soaked with 90% h2o and 10% peroxide. 3 inch deep alum treys, walmarts best.lol 1.95. took rye grain after proper inoculating time has past. jaw compleatly white threw, after loosening up seed, i spreaded them out into treys and coverd with alittle vermiculite. just enough to cover all the white. has been setting in light 12 hrs a day, being faned three times a day and humid is at 100%, this has gone on for 6 to 8 days,i see alot of white dime size dots popping threw but no fruits,how long dose anyone know this process will take to see fruits? has anyone done it like this. ive had succes with cakes ,but im looking at mass production...... thank a bunch bobby

[DopeMushroomMoFo]

new test being done. if antone has any sugestion,there welcome. 6 plastic grow chambers, perlite on bottom,perlite soaked with 90% h2o and 10% peroxide. 3 inch deep alum treys, walmarts best.lol 1.95. took rye grain after proper inoculating time has past. jaw compleatly white threw, after loosening up seed, i spreaded them out into treys and coverd with alittle vermiculite. just enough to cover all the white. has been setting in light 12 hrs a day, being faned three times a day and humid is at 100%, this has gone on for 6 to 8 days,i see alot of white dime size dots popping threw but no fruits,how long dose anyone know this process will take to see fruits? has anyone done it like this. ive had succes with cakes ,but im looking at mass production...... thank a bunch bobby

You should be seeing pins soon, you cased with verm. I've never done it, (never used verm.) but seen it done. It will work fine, usually it wont colonize though, so if your seeing white it could be a lump of mushroom tissue that didn't grow like a shroom but as a huge lump of stem. What strain are you using? It's common in fast colonizing strains.
[EDIT] It could be myco though, I would just watch it, if it grows up and into a huge lump you'll know it's a deformed chunk of mushroom tissue. Otherwise you should have pins soon.

[DopeMushroomMoFo]

I want to do a dunk with cakes but add food coloring to the water so the Myc will absorb the color and have festive mushies (pink and red for V-day, green and red for X-mas) I'll let you know how it goes


Hopefully you have organic food coloring, because regular food coloring contains dyes that would most likely just kill your cakes.

[GirlsHateMe]

You should be seeing pins soon, you cased with verm. I've never done it, (never used verm.) but seen it done. It will work fine, usually it wont colonize though, so if your seeing white it could be a lump of mushroom tissue that didn't grow like a shroom but as a huge lump of stem. What strain are you using? It's common in fast colonizing strains.
[EDIT] It could be myco though, I would just watch it, if it grows up and into a huge lump you'll know it's a deformed chunk of mushroom tissue. Otherwise you should have pins soon.

You dont case with just verm, thats silly...

You might roll your cakes in it, but thats not a casing, thats dunking and rolling....

[DopeMushroomMoFo]

You dont case with just verm, thats silly...

You might roll your cakes in it, but thats not a casing, thats dunking and rolling....

LOL YOU CAN'T CASE IN STRAIGHT VERM?! lol you're retarded, I can point you to a few grows that case in straight verm, you sir are a jackass. Maybe you should look shit up before you post.

That's right if it wasn't in RR's video's from the 80's you can't do it! lol god what an idjit.

[GirlsHateMe]

LOL a good casing is peat based, I hope they ban you soon...not because of the idea of the verm as casing, but because you are very hostile and uncivil...

why cant you ever respond without being so negative?

from the 80's...wtf? That video is hardly from the 80's...

[DopeMushroomMoFo]

LOL a good casing is peat based, I hope they ban you soon...

from the 80's...wtf? That video is hardly from the 80's...
Hardly? How can something hardly be from the 80's?

[EDIT] This just makes me laugh, because it was ignored, but i think it's a legitimate question...

[GirlsHateMe]

You know I never have a problem admiting when im wrong, but youve yet to set me straight in any way, but continued to attack and call me names...

This is hardly how fellow shroomers should be acting...

Why cant you just give me some solid info on your ideas and we can have a real idea exchange...

I just dont think straight verm is a viable casing layer, it might work, but why would you do that?

[DopeMushroomMoFo]

You know I never have a problem admiting when im wrong, but youve yet to set me straight in any way, but continued to attack and call me names...

This is hardly how fellow shroomers should be acting...

Why cant you just give me some solid info on your ideas and we can have a real idea exchange...

I just dont think straight verm is a viable casing layer, it might work, but why would you do that?
Go to your thread homie read that shit.

and also, yes people case in straight verm... Y? because it has no nutritional value, guess what? That's what casings are supposed to do. As I said I haven't, but verm is the perfect caseing, just like peat, or alot of other shit you can case w/ fresh cut grass if you wanted too, only it has Nitrogen in it. What's up now?

[GirlsHateMe]

You need to lose the attitude, I dont know why you are so hostile...

Listen if you ever need to talk about anything, im here to listen bro, I dunno whats making you so mad but its not good for the soul bro..

[DopeMushroomMoFo]

I need to lose the attitude? You're spreading false information on these forums, I'm setting it straight, to help the noobs that would have believed that BS, I'm sorry but you don't know shit about mushroom cultivation, go watch some more mushroom documentary from the 80's, because I'm sure you need to learn how to flame sterilize your syringes, with your rye that wont bust apart unless it absorbs too much water...

[GirlsHateMe]

Im afraid my information isnt false...verm is not an ideal casing layer by itself...

can you use it, probably, but its silly...

You need to calm down...

[ziggy5thstreet]

yea im about to start testing them myself i love animals too much
LC whats that? arenthey testing things cuz if i get sick sgsin my insurance is gonna go through the roof...

[NHMI]

Girls you are wrong, a casing is meant to keep moisture in and have no nutes in it and keep the CO2 up on the surface, verm will do that fine...when you roll you are creating a faux casing... Peat works but needs to be buffered and sucks. I use straight verm for casings if I case at all, but ultimately casings don't do shit with cubies so it is stupid that you are even arguing about it. I have grown plenty of shrooms and I have ONLY used verm for a casing and have had great results...so don't say something isn't a casing unless you actually know what the fuck you are talking about...

[cfo]

Newbie, here. I did the PF Tek, used six 0.5 pint jars. I use a shotgun terrarium and have harvested two flushes. I did notice that the 2nd flush didn't produce as many shrooms as the 1st flush, but I didn't use ice water, just regular cold water in a cooler overnight. The cakes are currently sitting in a cooler with water and ice cubes. I'll do the dunk in verm tomorrow morning and see if soaking in colder water will help increase the number of shrooms. I have absolutely no idea how many to take for my first dose, but I'm going to try them tomorrow night. I've been harvesting them before the veils break. I'm thinking I'll eat 5 or 6 shrooms and see what happens. What do you guys think, too small of a dose or too large for first trip?

[DopeMushroomMoFo]

Newbie, here. I did the PF Tek, used six 0.5 pint jars. I use a shotgun terrarium and have harvested two flushes. I did notice that the 2nd flush didn't produce as many shrooms as the 1st flush, but I didn't use ice water, just regular cold water in a cooler overnight. The cakes are currently sitting in a cooler with water and ice cubes. I'll do the dunk in verm tomorrow morning and see if soaking in colder water will help increase the number of shrooms. I have absolutely no idea how many to take for my first dose, but I'm going to try them tomorrow night. I've been harvesting them before the veils break. I'm thinking I'll eat 5 or 6 shrooms and see what happens. What do you guys think, too small of a dose or too large for first trip?

It doesn't matter size of dose really, if you don't think you can handle it don't eat it, because if you don't think you can handle it, you mentally cant handle it.
If you see a decrease in flushes, I would try to dunk in worm casting tea so that you can replenish some nutes to the cake to promote more mushroom growth, also people dunk in organic brewed cold coffee for more Nitrogen, I've herd once a cake is out of nutes your lucky to get just a few mushrooms a cake, then there are potency problems. I would suggest at least use them to make a caseing with coir, or Hpoo. This site, and others, should be filled with Teks to help you out, but most cakes don't contain enough nutes for vary many flushes, usually 3 flushes max with PF tek...
[EDIT] Also, what strain are you growing?

[DopeMushroomMoFo]

Girls you are wrong, a casing is meant to keep moisture in and have no nutes in it and keep the CO2 up on the surface, verm will do that fine...when you roll you are creating a faux casing... Peat works but needs to be buffered and sucks. I use straight verm for casings if I case at all, but ultimately casings don't do shit with cubies so it is stupid that you are even arguing about it. I have grown plenty of shrooms and I have ONLY used verm for a casing and have had great results...so don't say something isn't a casing unless you actually know what the fuck you are talking about...


:), yes this is vary true... I have read people using lots of things that I would think was crazy for casings, like pea stones, recycled glass pebbles, and things like this, with great success. The only thing you forgot was verm as a casing is supposed to have no nutes because if you have mold spores that land on the surface you wont have to worry about them germinating, because there is no nutes for them to grow, similar to why people put a dry layer of verm on their cakes. I'm pretty sure verm is one of the most recommended materials for casing, so I don't understand were this kid is getting his information. I use nothing but casings for the most part, and I grow cubes and pans, but i don't even use verm, I should but its a hassle to get here, so i usually just use jars donated by friends, or rye berry jars i make myself.

[EDIT] Verm as a casing layer is suggested for use with people that have problems with contaminates. this is the point I was trying to make here, yes it was worded weird in the above post.^

[slandshroomynewbie]

2g's is a normal dose isnt it?

[bobby]

hey NHMI how did the food coloring thing come out?? that would be kinda cool to try. did it work yet??

[DopeMushroomMoFo]

2g's is a normal dose isnt it?
dry? yes wet? No, 2 grams is like 1/10 of a mushroom. I've had 1 mushroom weigh as much as 30 grams wet, which is nothing compared to some monsters I've seen people grow.

[slandshroomynewbie]

2grams dry i meant

[DopeMushroomMoFo]

2grams dry i meant
Than Yes, that should be an OK dose, I think 3-5 is a little better, but 2 is fine, like eating a 20 gram fresh mushroom.

[reefermadness16]

wow yea on that whole casing subject you all have your info all fuckd yes a casng is used to keep in humidity and co2 on the surface however the whole point of casing is not only to fend off mold but to increase surface area thus increasing yield yes you can case in materials that do not contain nutes in order to prevent mold spores from germing but why would you waste the time when you could just as easily roll your cakes in verm if you are casing your best bet is to case to a bulk substrate and add a dry layer of verm at the top becasue if you use a casing material with no nutes then you will use up all nutes in the first flush as the surface area has increased and more mushes will grow so yes casing in strait verm will work but that doesnt mean shit ive seen people case in MONEY which while it hold no nutes will still work but that doesnt mean its not the stupidest shit i ever saw

[DopeMushroomMoFo]

wow yea on that whole casing subject you all have your info all fuckd yes a casng is used to keep in humidity and co2 on the surface however the whole point of casing is not only to fend off mold but to increase surface area thus increasing yield yes you can case in materials that do not contain nutes in order to prevent mold spores from germing but why would you waste the time when you could just as easily roll your cakes in verm if you are casing your best bet is to case to a bulk substrate and add a dry layer of verm at the top becasue if you use a casing material with no nutes then you will use up all nutes in the first flush as the surface area has increased and more mushes will grow so yes casing in strait verm will work but that doesnt mean shit ive seen people case in MONEY which while it hold no nutes will still work but that doesnt mean its not the stupidest shit i ever saw

Actually some people don't use cakes (amazing huh?), and u cant dunk and roll rye berries, or WBS. Verm is a great casing layer, better than straight coir, even though some people believe coir to be just as nutritious as poo, I have found it isn't without additives. I wasn't saying people case to prevent mold, I was stating people suggest casing in straight verm because there is less risk of contaminants, and because it preforms as a casing layer to lock in humidity and CO2... I don't believe you read any of that, or you just don't make any since, I was saying it as why people like to use straight verm, and as i also said you can case in just about anything, money is only something a dumb ass who grew on the bible would try (RR)

I see people receiving higher yields when cased with straight verm than when cased with straight coir, but as I said I don't case in verm, and I'm not saying people case because they don't want mold, I said that's why people like to use straight verm as a casing layer. Dose that make since? please read it a little more next time, I was being direct on VERM, not on CASING as a hole.

[EDIT] I see how you misunderstood (I was tripping on mushrooms, and I worded it all fucked up). I was saying a lot of the people that I see casing in verm, like to use it because it also helps with contaminant problems... Not because that's what casing are for, or anything like that.

[bobby]

im very confused about something guys and gals. ive been doing this sense april and have had some real interesting results. my fruits grow about 3 to5 inches and thats it, but i dry them out and i give them to a buddy of mine and he said every one who has tried them is freaking out on how strong they are and they claim they havent ever had stuff that good. am i doing something that everyone else isnt? i dont beleave so. im growning mexican,pink buffalos, and plantations. i did get the jars mixed up at the beginning and now i dont know whats what anymore. i just inoculated a bunch of rye seeds with surenges and the myc grew really strong and stringy in all the jars, but i forgot to mark them. now i just use the rye seed thats already inoc to re-inoc regular substraight jars of verm, and brown rice flower. it works pretty well,it takes three weeks to turn all white,i think i mixed up jars and now all three different types of spores are together. could this be a possiblity of why everyone who trys it says hollymoly its intense. please advise. i just wanna grow safe stuff. thanks bobby

[slandshroomynewbie]

if u got 3 diff strains in 1 jar they wont merge or anything like that,,u will just have 3 types of fruits,and maybe ur yeild will be less off,,because u have 3 strains fighting for the same jar of food which means less food between 3!!

[gordy]

yeah one of the first things i noticed was the differance in the strength of those i bought from the shops (:mad: before the all mighty fuck up of the British gov banning the sale of them on the 18th jul 2005 !! :mad:) as the ones i produced myself were way stronger :D . thats what convinced me to carry on !! after much debate with my mates i feel that it is most proberly the fact that you have more control over the inviroment and nutes also you are getting them sooner after picking than if a mass production farm had grown them . oh and normaly as far as i know only one of the strains will take over but keep us informed as i've not tried it myself sounds like your kicking out some banging shrooms thou so keep up the good work !! :D

[slandshroomynewbie]

ive hear dof 2 strains growing from 1 cake from a diff site,but in theory tey will be half what they should have been or one of the 2 strains wud be at disadvantage

[bobby]

oh.i see.lol damm those web sites for misleading info.lol well the damm tubs kept on just turnning all white again. i kept on patching everytime i saw a large white patch growing.lol before i new it i had 4 inches of pure solid substraight white all the way threw. i aborted the try and moved to cakes only. i will be trying one more time soon. thanks bobby

[bobby]

yea thats what i thought. thanks

[mycobabe]

I was talking with another avid mushroom lover.. and he claims that when he makes his media he adds food coloring to it... just to make it look cool

[caltWeree]

have you guys done this quest yet if not i would like to go if i can find the items needed to go
just let me know when and if you are going to do this
thx